Panaeng Curry with Beef (พะแนงเนื้อ)
>> Thursday, April 7, 2011

There appears to be two big camps when it comes to how modern-day panaeng curry is supposed to be: one camp prefers their panaeng saucier and more herbal1; one camp goes for a thicker, meatier, and sweeter panaeng with the taste of peanuts more prominent. These two seem to form the opposing ends of a spectrum on which the kinds of panaeng you'd find on the streets of, or at shophouse eateries in, Bangkok fall. This, of course, is entirely based on my own very unscientific observation.
I have always preferred the former since I grew up eating it both at home and at school,2 but I have in recent years come to embrace the richer, more Rendang-like panaeng which seems to be well liked among patrons of Thai restaurants in the US.
If you like the first type of panaeng, please check out my post on panaeng curry with pork and kabocha squash. However, if you like your panaeng more unctuous and nuttier, I believe this beef panaeng curry recipe would better suit your taste. No recipes will give you exactly what you get from your favorite restaurant, but this one should serve you well as a guide. You can always season it with fish sauce and palm sugar to taste; you can also adjust the consistency of the sauce to your liking.
Regardless of which version you prefer, having fresh kaffir lime leaves on hand is essential in creating good panaeng curry. Dried kaffir lime leaves just won't do.
Panaeng Curry with Beef (พะแนงเนื้อ)
(Serves 8)
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3 lbs beef, cut into 1.5-inch cubes (Use the kind of cut you'd use for pot roast, i.e. rich in collagen, somewhat fatty, and tough. Lean beef will only ruin the dish.)
1 13.5-ounce can of Chaokoh coconut milk
1/4 to 1/2 cup (2 to 4 ounces) of Panaeng curry paste depending on your heat tolerance (I use Maesri, but any imported brand will do.)
3 tablespoons of natural, creamy, unsweetened peanut butter3 (I've found regular peanut butter to create an off taste and smell.)
6-7 fresh kaffir lime leaves, cut into very thin strips
1-2 red jalapeños, cut on a diagonal lengthwise
Fish sauce
Palm sugar
1 With Thai basil added to it in addition to the essential fresh kaffir lime leaves.2 About once every two weeks or so, a mild and saucy panaeng curry with pork and sliced long beans showed up on the school's lunch menu -- one of my favorites.
3 You can also grind up some unsalted roasted peanuts, measure out 3 tablespoons, and use that in lieu of the natural peanut butter. They're essentially the same thing, though.



32 comments:
Oh, looks like the perfect meal to spice up a cold dreary day. Perfect comfort food when the boys come home all drenched & muddy from soccer. I'm giving this a try real soon!
Yummy!!
amazing!
Looks rather simple, yet delicious - going to try this one soon!
@rramirez4444
Looks gorgeous, I'm starving now and I've just had my breakfast!
Just one question Leela, will frozen kaffir lime leaves work instead of fresh?
Lisa - Yes. Kaffir limes leaves freeze very, very well and hardly lose any potency. They're just about as good as fresh!
Wow that looks delicious! Do you have a suggestion for an alternative for canned coconut milk? To my sadness and surprise, I just read that canned coconut contained one of the highest amount of PBA. Not sure what to do as I love and frequently use chaokoh coconut milk!
Lan - Whole Foods' brand, 365, *may* be BPA- free, but I'm not sure. While researching which brands are and which are not, short of milking your own coconut milk from fresh or frozen grated coconut meat, your best bet is to use coconut milk powder. Chaokoh makes that too. Just dilute it with water and use like coconut milk. It certainly won't be the same as canned coconut milk, and the finished curry won't form a rich, thick sauce. But the fact that it doesn't have BPA should make up for it.
Lovely! This dish looks so tempting. Definitely need to try this very soon!
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I somehow managed to spend 10 months in Bangkok without once eating Panaeng curry. Then, just before going home we had Panaeng for the first time, and it became our favorite. I now judge Thai restaurants not by Pad Thai (a blah dish, I much prefer Pad Kee Mao), but by their Panaeng curry. Best I've had was at a restaurant in Dallas that started out as a lunch counter in a gas station, but eventually moved across the street into a strip mall and became quite up-scale.
Leela, what do you recommend for beef? I like shank for curries but I can't always get it. Is flank good for this?
George - Chuck is the best; rump is a distant second. Other cuts aren't that great. I love shank, but not in this particular dish.
Hi there, I am Thai from Bangkok and a self declared foodie. Penang curry is always with thick sauce too dilute and you almost find yourself with abowl of red curry ;-)) now course peanuts? in paneng curry? never heard of in authentic recipes..... great pic btw
Mark - Thanks. Agreed. Most street curries you find these days are too diluted.
As for peanuts in panaeng curry, that's pretty common knowledge. A quick primary Google search for พะแนงเนื้อ ถั่วลิสง or นำ้พริกแกงพะแนง ถั่วลิสง yields over 5000 results including anecdotal evidence of old recipes requiring peanuts in the paste (or stirred into the sauce later as a finishing touch). Some even insist that the presence of peanuts (and I would add "kaffir lime leaves") is what essentially sets panaeng apart from red curry or khua curry (แกงคั่ว). Otherwise, to them, panaeng is just a thicker, meatier red curry.
Leading commercial curry paste brands, e.g. Nittaya, have peanuts mixed into their panaeng formula. There are also other examples.
So, authentic or not, these recipes that call for peanuts represent what has been done for the last four decades, according to some people's recollection. Recipes that don't call for peanuts exist as well and they fall closer to the other end of the spectrum as mentioned in the post.
Authenticity is a word I have learned to use much more carefully and responsibly these days. It's easy to throw around; it's harder to defend.
It is interesting to read Mark's comment for my 57 years experience has been the opposite. If we're to use our own experience as a judge on what is authentic and what is not, then only panang that contains peanuts is authentic to me.
As a matter of fact, Leela, I'm even thinking that maybe what's at the other end of the continuum which you've described as more herbal could very well be kang kua in disguise for I've never considered anything other than what you've shown us in this post as authentic panang.
Vichai - Thanks for your input.
The minute I read your post title I just knew this was going to be about peanuts. I'll throw my own 2 cents in as well for the heck of it. I used to always think of paneng curry as having a strong peanut flavor also. Until I went to Thailand, where I had the experience that it did not have a peanut taste (this was less than 10 yeahrs ago). Further, just to confuse the issue more ;) I did take a cooking class in Chiang Mai, and we made paneng, so I asked the Thai instructor about it. He said that "You can put peanuts in if you want." but nothing about peanut butter. So since then I have made without peanuts. I am curious to add some peanut butter now to my paneng (I make my own paste-do you have a paste recipe you like?).
Laura - The peanut smell/taste is barely there. By no means should it be a prominent feature of the curry. Some people, as I've mentioned in the post, don't even add peanuts to their panaeng.
The use of natural peanut butter in this recipe is solely due to the fact that commercial curry paste is used and it makes more sense to use peanuts in paste form. Had this involved making curry paste from scratch, I would have suggested you add some roasted peanuts into the mortar as you pound the paste. Also, as noted in the post, only natural peanut butter should be used as it's the closest thing to grinding your own roasted peanuts. The reference to "peanut butter" often surprises or alarms people, but natural peanut butter is nothing but roasted peanuts ground to a paste. I wouldn't use regular peanut butter in this or any Thai recipes.
My sister has a kaffir lime tree, so I'll have to get some leaves from her next time I'm there, especially since you mention freezing them. I'm curious that you're less fussy about your brand of curry paste than of coconut milk. I'll have to see if Chaokoh brand is available in Australia.
Arwen - Aw. Kaffir lime envy. Yes, the leaves freeze very, very well and thaw beautifully. All you have to do is put them in a zipper freezer bag; as long as the bag is zipped up tight at all times, you're good.
Yeah, the Thai curry paste brands that have exported overseas are mostly respectable brands in the motherland, so they're all good. Of course, some prefer one or two over the others (read the discussion in my post on easy Thai green curry). But in general, any imported brands won't let you down.
In an ideal world, you'd use great curry paste and great coconut milk. But if one of them has to be inferior, I'd prefer that it be the curry paste as opposed to the coconut milk. This is because flavor can be adjusted as you go; the fat content or the consistency of the coconut milk which forms the body of the curry is hard to fix.
For what it's worth, out of necessity, I once made red curry with canned coconut milk that contains guar gum and it didn't go very well. Once I opened the can and saw that the coconut milk came in a nice, thick, homogeneous, emulsified state and I feared the worst. Went ahead and made curry with it anyway.
The result was a most disgusting, slimy curry I've ever had any time anywhere. And it was made with my favorite curry paste.
This looks great...so great that I could not find Kaffir Leaves in my area and just ordered a Lime tree shipped for the leaves only!!! (lets see if I can keep it alive in Chicago) I guess my only concern was about the tenderness of the meat, cooking only for an hour. I would love to pre cook the meat then do the recipe. Have you had experience with your meat (and i assume its california cut chuck roast, choice grade and cut) being a little tough for this dish.? Thank you for sharing this....love your sight! Gin
Gin - Whoa. Talk about dedication! You can order fresh kaffir lime from online Thai grocers as well. They survive the transit and freeze very well.
Regarding the cooking time, each cut of meat is different. That's why I suggest you check for tenderness at the 45- to 60-minute mark and let the meat cook some more if necessary. Chuck roast would be perfect for this.
This sounds delicious. The peanuts are not in the recipe I've been using, but I'll switch. What can I say, you've never let me down! To the above comment regarding the BPA in canned goods - I've been working to remove that from my diet also and found coconut cream in a tetra-pak. The brand is Aroy-D and it contains no icky gum-like additives. In the late 80's when I was in college, I didn't know you could buy coconut milk and would make my own every time I cooked thai food. Love buying it now!
Emilyplays - Thanks! I'll look for the tetra-pak coconut milk. It's very commonly found in Thailand and I hope we'll see more of it in the US.
I just discovered your site not long ago, and I'm really glad I found it! I tried this recipe last night, and while the flavors were very good, I found it far too salty for my personal tastes. I used a full 4 oz. of the curry paste (Maesri) and the full amount of fish sauce called for. Do you think I could reduce either the amount of fish sauce or the curry used to reduce salt, or would that alter the recipe too much?
Melissa - Yes, you can reduce the amount of the fish sauce to taste. I wouldn't reduce the amount of curry paste, personally, because that would make for an anemic curry.
One thing about Thai curries, or Thai dishes in general, is that most of them are made to be eaten with rice. That's the way we eat; rice is the main dish and the curry accompanies the rice. So the dishes are seasoned in such a way that it has enough flavor not only in itself but also for the bland rice. One spoon of curry should be mixed with roughly 3-4 spoons of rice on your plate.
Please pardon my late reply, but thanks so much for your advice. I'm going to try this recipe again shortly with your suggestions in mind.
Hi,
If we can't find Panaeng curry paste, can we use any curry paste?
Cheers,
Pam
Pam - With kaffir lime leaves, you *might* be able to get away with using red curry paste and end up with something close to panaeng. I'm afraid, though, that if you live in an area where panaeng curry paste isn't available, you'll have a hard time finding fresh kaffir lime leaves too.
Any chance you can order panaeng curry paste from an online Asian grocer?
Leela,
What do you think about adding potatoes to this? Would you do it after you've got it at a simmer after adding fish sauce/sugar and bringing to a boil?
Thanks!
Eric
Eric - Potatoes are not traditionally added to panaeng. I'd add them to massaman beef, but not this.
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