Making Bread with Red Wine: Chianti Pine Nut Bread
>> Tuesday, February 23, 2010

Though I wouldn't say that I'm a complete bread noob, I still consider yeast bread a thing of mystery. I have been making yeast bread regularly for 3-4 years now, but it's still a series of hits and misses. For recipes which have proven to work consistently, I have shared them with you on my blog. I'm just hoping you don't ask me why they work for I have no clue. Take this Chianti pine nut bread for example. It works, and I'm thankful for that. I just don't know why.
Not understanding the science of bread making well enough is precisely my problem. I don't recognize what it is that I do right when things turn out well, and I don't know enough to perform accurate autopsies on things that turn out horribly. My bread knowledge and skill are average at best and currently limited to how to check for gluten development (the gluten "window" method) and how to achieve crusty exteriors (baking stone and steam in the oven). When a recipe doesn't yield the desired result, I can't even be sure whether it's the recipe's fault or mine. This is frustrating.
As we all have learned from daytime TV, the lack of wisdom or knowledge in a person is often accompanied by recklessness and impulse. What I am too timid or ignorant to experiment with in life, I make up for those lost thrills by experimenting wildly in the kitchen. I can't recall how I came up with the idea of using red wine in bread, but there I was, thinking about it day and night.
The concept itself isn't too crazy; bakers replace water and milk in bread recipes with other liquids all the time. The execution of it, on the other hand, seemed daunting to me at the time. I'm not the brightest crayon in the box when it comes to bread, but I could see how red wine and the sugar alcohol contained therein would interfere with the yeast fermentation.
With my heart set on making bread with red wine, I started searching for clues from experienced bakers. The only search result that looked good to me was Susan's Red Wine Loaf with Pine Nuts and Figs on Wild Yeast. I thought that was one delicious-looking fruit- and nut-studded red wine loaf. Unfortunately, after one quick read through of the recipe, I came to realize that it was too advanced for me. The recipe is clearly for those who actually know what they're doing. Besides, my palate isn't sophisticated enough to appreciate very dense bread, and I noticed that most of the red wine breads I saw were on the dense side.
Does putting red wine in bread dough always result in low-rising, dense bread? "Curiouser and curiouser!" cried I in the manner of Alice in Wonderland.
Fact: strong curiosity doesn't necessarily translate into tenacity in learning.
That burst of inspiration proved to be short-lived. Within days after the initial excitement, I decided red wine bread was too complicated and threw in the towel even before tasting the bitter tears of failure. I told myself if I really had to have wine-flavored bread, I could always dip my bread in red wine which would be a heck of a lot easier.
Moral: if you're not smart enough to succeed at something, come up with an excuse that's smart enough to convince yourself you're not a failure.
Also fact: curiosity when left unsatisfied often leads to unhealthy obsession.
These past several months after having given up on the idea, I have sometimes found myself lying in bed, staring at the ceiling, trying to conjure up an image of a crusty loaf of bread with chewy and open texture, studded with nuts, and fragrant with red wine. I kept wondering what it would be like to pair that bread with some really good cheese and turn it into a gooey, crusty grilled cheese sandwich. I kept thinking of how great the bread would taste with some homemade fruit preserve smeared on it. I couldn't stop thinking how wonderful it would be to bite into a piece of wine-flavored bread with my favorite store-bought truffle goat butter. You see, at that point, my I-can-always-dip-my-bread-in-red-wine excuse started to lose its effectiveness.
Moral: whatever it is you want to do, just do it. And quickly. 
You know how sometimes when you know too much about something, you tend to over-think it? I'm glad to report that I didn't have that problem when I was making this bread. Approaching the unfamiliar task with the confidence of a seasoned matador and the wisdom of a toilet seat, I shushed the voices of reason, whipped out my go-to white bread recipe, and proceeded to replace the water it called for with equal amount of leftover, room temperature, Chianti. To make the project even more dare-devilish, I told my KitchenAid mixer to take a break; I'd knead the blessed dough by hand.
To my surprise, it worked. For the most part, I am very pleased with the result. The exterior was crusty and the interior is chewy and delicious. The bread doesn't taste of red wine, but it is certainly fragrant of it. I really love the way it tastes.
And, oh, remember those things I used to lie in bed wondering about, i.e. whether it makes a good grilled cheese sandwich together with a good cheese or whether it goes well with homemade fruit preserves or compound butter? I wonder no more. The answer is affirmative on all counts.
So I guess red wine can be used in lieu of water or milk in some bread recipes. The only thing different was that it took the dough 5 hours to double during each rise. I started this bread in the morning and it was done around bedtime. But here are some questions for you experienced bakers out there who I hope would kindly educate this average baker: What do you think of the texture? Could it be more open? How can I create a more open texture? 

Chianti Pine Nut Bread [This post has been submitted to Yeastspotting.]
(Makes one 2-lb loaf)
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- Mix together on the counter top, 3.5 cups of bread flour, 2 teaspoons active dry yeast, 2 tablespoons sugar, and 1 1/2 teaspoons salt. Make a well in the center.
- Lightly beat together 1 cup of room temperature Chianti (or other dry red wines), one large egg, and 1/4 cup (4 tablespoons/ 2 ounces) softened butter.
- Pour the wet mixture into the center of the dry mixture and knead, adding more flour as needed to achieve a smooth dough.
- Knead. Knead. Knead. Knead some more until the dough is smooth and elastic.
- Knead in 1/2 cup of raw pine nuts.
- Form the dough into a ball, place it in a greased bowl, cover with a piece of plastic wrap, and let it rise in a warm spot until doubled in volume. Depending on how cold or warm your house is, this could take up to five hours.
- Punch down the dough and form into an oval loaf. Dust the outside with flour. Cover the dough with a kitchen towel and let it rise once more until doubled in volume. Again, this could take another five hours.
- Preheated the oven to 375°F. With a sharp knife, make decorative slashes on the surface of the loaf. (I think I went a bit too crazy with it.)
- Bake the bread on a baking stone dusted with cornmeal or a baking sheet lined with a piece of parchment paper.
- Every 10 minutes or so, throw a few ice cubes onto the oven floor to create steam.
- The bread should be browned, crusty, and sound hollow when tapped after 40-45 minutes in the oven.
- Remove the bread from the oven and let the finished loaf cool completely on a cooling rack before slicing.





24 comments:
Well however it works it looks awesome! I'm totally trying replacing the water in my pizza dough with wine.
I can't believe you didn't include that beautiful photo of the purple dough... that was amazing.
Vinny - Added. :)
Leela, hahahahaha, you're always a funny girl, I love how you narrated your experiment in such a witty manner. Oh, btw, I have never tried any bread that's made with red wine (or I don't even know wine has been added), do you think I can follow your recipe if I use a bread machine? LOL
Hey Kenny - Since the time it takes for the dough to rise is twice or three times longer than usual, I would use the dough cycle just to get the machine to do the kneading for you. Then take the dough out and let it rise in a bowl. Punch down, shape, let it rise the second time, bake in the oven. Bread machine cycle is fixed time-wise, and I'm afraid it's not long enough for the dough to rise properly.
That bread sounds and looks amazing! I am very intrigued by the process of making it with the wine and the gorgeous result! Wish I could have a taste!
Probably increasing the liquid a tad more would open the texture. It looks very dramatic. I'm not a big wine person so since it doesn't taste very much like wine I think I'd enjoy it ;)
Break making is a mystery to me. When it comes to cooking I like to taste what I'm cooking as I'm cooking. Can't really do that when it comes to baking, but I might have to give this recipe a try. Your bread looks amazing. Love the crusty outside and the soft inside.
A bread that smells of wine? That's divine! (as opposed to "the vine'' LOL. Bad pun intended.)
I'd be toying with the idea of wild yeast myself, but have to do a bit more research. Not sure I would get the results I desire in my apartment.
I love beer bread, but its a a quick bread and not a yeast bread, it never occurred to me to try a wine bread. Love the idea. That crust looks about perfect.
I look forward to trying your recipe. I confess to having gotten out of baking so don't have any good suggestions, but on Twitter, you might want to as @zoebakes. I think she'd be a good resource for you.
I remember from my county fair judging days that one criteria is the consistency of the holes, they look for them all to be of about the same size. I cannot remember why makes them different - now I have some research to do, but I'd gotten dinged on that once.
Red wine and bread… mmm sounds intriguing and scrumptious. Kudos for your persistence and for the delicious wine-bread aroma on the air :)
Cheers,
Gera
Definitely can't answer the real questions you asked about the bread and its texture. It's just cool that this worked! This is the first time seeing a wine-based bread, so it's all new and fun. Share that grilled cheese recipe!
Congratulations on jumping into the deep end of the pool. I always think you learn the most from experimenting rather than studying, even if the result isn't exactly what you had in mind. The crumb looks great to me, but if you'd like it a bit more open, try adding less flour so the dough is a little more wet and loose.
woah, well done! THe texture looks really good and I like the colour.
Love your post...as I have been going through the same thing you did when it comes to bread.
The bread is beautiful and looks delicious. The crumb loos great and I would not change anything, but as Susan suggested you can increase the hydration to get a more open crumb.
Bread turns out better if you make an offerring to the yeast god first.
Slightly wetter doughs seem to form more bubbles. You may want to add a splash or two more wine. The dough will be more difficult to work with, but you may get more wholes but it may end up being a bread with a flatter form (say like a ciabatta).
Good luck. I find that if I keep tweaking the same recipe over and over, I usually end up with something I'm happy with!
BTW, I think your loaf looks perfect as it is!!
The bread looks delicious and to me the crumb looks good. But if you are looking for a more open crumb you should increase Hydration of the dough. I would suggest starting with 30 ml (about two Tbs) more.
Hey Leela, what was the weight of your flour?
If you are looking for a more open crumb you will need a high hydration level 70%+
Also if you do your initial rise in the refrigerator overnight you can cut back on your yeast, this helps build a flavour base and you are not up until all hours of the night, been there done that scenario many times.
Forming the loaf and slashing the dough of slacker/wetter doughs can be at times a headache, you I believe are not afraid of challenges and actually thrive on them.
BTW, the loaf looks great! I hope these were Italian pine nuts to pair up the the Chianti...
Oh I forgot you may want to increase the oven temp to 450, get a better oven spring and a more open crumb
Whenever i read posts that talk about hydration and proofing at great technical length I feel insanely unknowledgeable about bread making as well. This bread looks amazing though. The crumb looks pretty open to me! Kudos to you for just forging ahead and doing it.
I was wondering if it was possible to make bread using wine...now I know. I'm gonna try making some green chile/whole wheat red wine bread and some white wine bread. Thanks for your post.
The best way to learn how bread (especially yeast) works is to experience yeast. The original recipe (in metrics) calls for sourdough starter. This is a collection of yeast, and in this case, yeast collected naturally from the air. Yeast is literally everywhere.
Sourdough starter is just equal parts water and flour in a jar or bowl, cover in cloth (allow for air but keep flies out), and it will collect the yeast naturally. Stir daily. When it begins to smell sour, "feed" it a little flour each day.
What you have then is a collection of natural, active yeast.
That is the basis of what makes bread. It's very natural, and when you experience it, everything makes sense.
Also, for pancakes, i just pour the starter in to the pan, adding fruits or honey or whatever.
but don't forget to feed the starter. it's alive.
Hi - wonderful blog! I make a great beer bread, but I heat the beer first to drive off the alcohol. Alcohol kills or slows the yeast!
try it with your wine - I know it sounds sacriligeous, but it should work!!
As with your wine bread, the flavour isn't strong, but I use an old English trick of boiling up some hops and adding the strained water (stinks!) They did this in the middle ages to help preserve the bread. The malt in the beer gives a really well risen loaf.
Perhaps there's something winey like hops? I'm going to try a wine bread - the colour's great for a start. I'll use a cheap sweetish red, so the sugar will help. I'll post the results.
Hi Leela, apologies if this comment comes up twice - I wrote one before signing up.
I make a good beer bread, and the trick I use is to heat the beer first, enough to drive off the alcohol - alcohol kills or slows yeast fermentation. The malt gives a very well risen, light bread. As with your wine recipe, the flavour isn't strong, but I use added water in which I boil up some hops. This is a very old English practice, said to help preserve the bread.
I'm going to try your wine recipe, which sounds wonderful, using a sweetish red wine, so as to get some sugars in the bread. I wonder if there's anything akin to hops to beef up the flavour? I'll Google home brewing sites, perhaps.
I'll post my results if they're any good.
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