Homemade English Muffins Complete with Nooks and Crannies

>> Wednesday, March 4, 2009

For so long I had searched for a good English muffin recipe. Well, this may baffle you as everyone knows tons of English muffin recipes are just a Google search away. But here's the thing: I am very picky about my English muffins.

As one clichéd saying goes: if you don't stand for something, you fall for everything. To apply this to a recipe search, unless you know exactly what you look for (taste, appearance, texture, etc.), any recipe that does not produce catastrophic results seems good to you. And that's fine. In the end, an ideal recipe is one that gives you what you want.


When it comes to English muffins, boy, do I know what I want. I don't ask for much; I only need two things. I need spongy texture, and heavens know, I need my nooks and crannies. This is the reason why my search for a perfect recipe had been such a long process. I could not find one recipe that yielded these two things. When I found a web or cookbook recipe for English muffins, first thing I looked for was the pictureof the finished product. Dense, fine, bready texture with no nooks and crannies? I packed up and moved on.


To me -- and you may not agree -- the spongy texture and the nooks and crannies are the sine qua non characteristics of English muffins. Without them, you have nothing but English muffin-shaped rolls. The same thing goes for bagels. Without the definitive bagel "chewiness," you're left with donut-shaped rolls. Good Ciabatta and Focaccia, in my bigoted opinion, need to have crusty exteriors and open texture on the inside; otherwise they're just regular bread that happens to be flat.

With several disappointing recipes behind me, my sense of discernment had become sharper. In fact, lately, I could just scan an English muffin recipe and know right away whether it would be worth trying. For example, when I came across a recipe that told me to shape the dough into balls, flatten them with my hands, and dust them with cornmeal, I immediately moved on. I had gone through too many of those. None of such recipes had worked for me. They may produce the kind of English muffins that suit the taste of the recipe author, but not mine.

The only recipes that had come anywhere close to my ideal English muffins all involved a soft and wet dough and I mean, very wet and very soft. Yet even those few good ones fell short in one way or another.

When I came across Alton Brown's English muffin recipe, right away I had a feeling this could be "it."


When I read the recipe and saw that the dough would be so soft that you would have to scoop it into the muffin rings with an ice cream scooper, I almost jumped up on my kitchen counter and yodeled with joy.

But oh, the results ... And here's another thing which makes this recipe stands out above the rest: it works consistently.

If you're into nooks and crannies, this recipe is it.

You can find the recipe for Alton Brown's English muffins here. The procedure is simple enough and the only special equipment you need is the English muffin rings which aren't that difficult to find these days and can easily be substituted with tuna cans with both ends removed.

For those who prefer measuring dry ingredients by weight and liquids by volume, here's a converted version of AB's recipe:

English Muffins
Adapted from Alton Brown
Downloadable Version

Mixture #1:
36g nonfat milk powder
14g sugar
2g salt
14g melted shortening or vegetable oil (Use something flavorless.)
8 fl. oz. (1 cup/236 cc) hot water

Mixture #2:
7g dry yeast
A pinch of sugar
2.7 fl. oz. (1/3 cup/78 cc) lukewarm water

250g all-purpose flour
2g of salt

  • Mix the ingredients listed under Mixture # together in one bowl; stir until the sugar is fully dissolved and let it cool down to lukewarm.
  • Mix together the ingredients listed under Mixture #2 in another bowl and let it rest until the yeast has dissolved.
  • Add Mixture #2 to the bowl containing Mixture #1 and mix well.
  • Add the flour to the wet mixture and beat vigorously with a wooden spoon. Cover the bowl and let it rest in a warm spot for 30 minutes.
  • Set a nonstick pancake griddle over medium-low heat; coat it lightly with vegetable oil spray.
  • Add the other 2 grams of salt and 1 teaspoon of baking soda (see notes below) to the batter and mix thoroughly.
  • Place English muffin rings on the griddle and coat the insides with vegetable oil spray.
  • Fill each muffin ring about 3/4 full; cover with a cookie sheet (see notes below) and cook for 5-6 minutes
  • Remove the cookie sheet and flip the muffins over with a pair of tongs. Cover with a cookie sheet and cook for another 5-6 minutes or until golden brown.
  • Remove the muffins from the griddle, rings and all.
  • Carefully remove the rings and let the muffins cool completely before splitting them.

  • My Notes:

  • I have made two batches (28 batches as of 8-17-10) using Brown's recipe. For the first batch, I followed his procedure exactly and got very good results. However, for the second batch (shown here), I decided to experiment with adding 1 teaspoon of baking soda to create the bubbling effect in the dough (per some other good recipes that I had tried) just before it went on the griddle. This method yields even more pronounced nooks and crannies. In fact, from now on, I think I will add baking soda to my dough every time.
  • Brown suggests that you use an electric griddle and set the temperature at 300° F. But I used my pancake griddle and set it on medium-low heat -- I would say a couple of notches above your lowest setting.
  • Be sure to grease the bottom of the cookie sheet which is to be placed on top of the filled muffin rings. You want to keep the dough inside the muffin rings, not underneath the cookie sheet after it has been removed.
  • Let the muffins cool completely before splitting them.


  • best english muffin bread recipe
    (Note added March 22nd, 2010: After 6 months of trials and errors, I have perfected English muffin loaf, i.e. a loaf of bread that has spongy texture and open crumbs almost like English muffins baked on the stovetop in English muffin rings. This English Muffin Bread with Lots of Nooks and Crannies is phenomenal.

    84 comments:

    Rosanna March 4, 2009 12:18 PM  

    I couldn't agree more -- the holes are the best-tasting part! Can't wait to give these a try.

    Anonymous,  March 4, 2009 10:30 PM  

    How much baking soda?

    Leela March 5, 2009 6:21 AM  

    Oops. Thanks, Anonymous. Will add info to the text posthaste.

    Brilynn March 5, 2009 12:12 PM  

    I'm a big Alton Brown fan. I tried once before to making English muffins without success, I'll have to give these a shot, they look great!

    Tangled Noodle March 5, 2009 3:51 PM  

    There is nothing better than an extra-large cranny that's pooled over with melted butter! I have never eaten a fresh, homebaked english muffin. It's about time.

    jan uk,  March 6, 2009 10:43 AM  

    i dont understand why you call these muffins they are crumpets! muffins dont have holes in them and are baked. i see this all the time from the US can anyone explain it?

    Elle March 6, 2009 1:25 PM  

    Blessings on you! I, too, have tried English Muffin recipes to no avail. Usually it is the missing nooks and crannies, so the extra baking soda at the end is a great tip. Alton, like Dorie, usually has perfect recipes. THANK YOU!! Making these will be a pleasure.

    Leela March 6, 2009 1:33 PM  

    Jan - What the American call muffin (A) is different from what the British call muffin (which is baked not cooked on a griddle) which is what you referred to (B). Neither A nor B is in view here, so I won't address these two.

    The long-standing (and a bit tired) debate, however, revolves around the difference(s) between what is universally referred to as crumpet (C) and what is called English muffin in the US (D). This is due to the similarity between C and D.

    I've listed a few places where the differences between C and D are discussed below. Personally, here's where the line is drawn for me: if you eat it whole, it's C, if you split it, it's D.

    http://www.wisegeek.com/what-are-crumpets.htm

    http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20060828064804AAnhcUR

    http://www.answerbag.com/q_view/368331

    Leela March 6, 2009 1:39 PM  

    Elle - You're SO right about Alton and Dorie. :)

    Kevin March 7, 2009 2:40 PM  

    Those English muffins look perfect!

    Leela March 8, 2009 11:18 AM  

    Thanks, Kevin. Out of curiosity, do you guys call these English muffins in Canada?

    Linda March 13, 2009 4:48 PM  

    I agree with you about Alton. Alton's recipe for chocolate chip cookies is the best I've ever used.

    Thanks for the recommendation!

    Jude March 13, 2009 11:07 PM  

    I've never gone wrong with Alton Brown recipe. Will keep your tweaks in mind to get more crooks and nannies.

    Esther July 30, 2009 8:24 AM  

    I have to say a big thank you for posting this information about muffins! I from the UK but having dual nationality with the US I have spent a lot of time over your way an got a serious English muffin habit, bringing back bags of the Thomas variety when from my visits. Contrary to what has been said here, we can buy this kind of muffin in the UK but as you say, they are no better then sandwich bread. There is nothing like the nooks and crannies for the butter and whatever topping. My current favourite is appple butter brought over from my aunt in Vermont. I'll be sad when it's gone! In the meantime I'm going to fill my freezer with your recommended recipe. I did have some here that were slightly redeemed by being flavoured with strong English cheddar and black pepper, so once I master the basics I might have a go at this variation.

    Corrin,  August 1, 2009 8:15 PM  

    I have had luck using AB's recipe in that the texture is chewy and the nooks and crannies sufficient, but the taste is horribly yeasty. I am a decent bread baker and am accustomed to using staters such as bigas and poolishes which develop a wonderful tasting product, so using this much yeast, to me, is just too much. Has anyone else found this recipe lacking the flavor of delicous slow fermented breads?

    JoeV September 21, 2009 10:00 PM  

    I've made this variation of AB's recipe (with baking soda) several times, all with great success and many kudos. I make mine in a cast iron skillet and they come out beautiful. I even mixed the dry ingredients and stored in a zippered bag, then added the wet when I got into fishing camp this Summer. I made them in my cast iron skillet on a flat top griddle on a camp stove, and we all had Eggs Benedict for breakfast in camp. hey were amazed, because everything was made in camp.

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    Thanks for sharing your discovery with us.

    lungworms November 12, 2009 5:01 PM  

    This is exactly what I'm looking for - mega nooks and crannies! I'll be whipping up a batch this weekend! And if you're looking for English muffin rings, look no further than amazon.com - they've got several choices, some really inexpensive. (I just can't eat enough tuna salad to get a sufficient number of cans, you see.)

    Anonymous,  January 1, 2010 9:50 AM  

    Thank you! I live in Brazil and sometimes I dream of english muffins, which we don't have here. Your post describes exactly what I would like to find in an english muffin recipe, and I will try the suggested recipe immediately!
    Isabel.

    Anonymous,  January 17, 2010 10:02 AM  

    I made a small change to Alton Brown's recipe.
    Like you, I added one teaspoon of baking powder in the final mixing just before placing on the griddle...Here is the small change...pour the batter into the rings...wait ONE MINUTE and flip with a turner. The idea is to flip while the top is still runny. That way the runny batter will run down onto the top of the griddle and you wind up with two perfect surfaces. Note there is NO COOKIE SHEET for the first minute before flipping. Also I found that a #12 ice cream scoop (disher) which is 5-1/3 tablespoon or about 1/3 cup works best.

    Leela January 17, 2010 10:09 AM  

    Anonymous - Thank you so much. Comments like this always make my day! I would have t try flipping the filled muffin rings while the top of the batter is still runny like you've suggested. The cookie sheet is quite cumbersome and if I don't have to use it, that would be great. Thanks for the tips!

    Also, just to clarify, you add baking soda to the batter, not baking powde, right?

    Anonymous,  January 19, 2010 7:24 PM  

    Okay, just made a batch using AB recipe, but added the baking soda. My batter was far more viscous than I think it should have been. It did not flow at all. I am wondering if during the resting time it may have been too warm? And, due to this, perhaps the baking soda was unable to enhance the nooks and crannies? Appreciate your thoughts!

    Leela January 19, 2010 8:23 PM  

    Anonymous - Hmm ... the only thing I can think of is that you may have:
    1. inadvertently packed in the flour a bit too much when measuring out 2 cups, or
    2. didn't have the measuring cup at eye level when measuring the water resulting in too little liquid.

    Is any of those two things possible?

    The batter is supposed to be very thick, though -- thicker than pancake batter for sure, and very gooey. I need to use my fingertips to wipe it off the ice cream scooper every time, in fact. So if your batter didn't flow, it's because it's not supposed to.

    Other than what I've mentioned, the only thing that could mess things up would be the quality of the yeast. You didn't use old, past-expiration date yeast, right? Sometimes, test-activating a teaspoon of the yeast to see if it's still good and alive removes the doubt.

    Wish I could see the pictures of your muffins so I could better diagnose the problem. :-(

    amber February 3, 2010 2:53 PM  

    Hi, I know this is an old post, but I am obsessed with making English Muffins because I miss them so much. I live in Italy where they just don't have them.

    I was wondering you have any suggestions for nonfat milk powder as that is just not available here......thank you!

    Leela February 3, 2010 3:21 PM  

    Hi Amber - When a bread recipe calls for nonfat milk powder in addition to water (as is the case with this one), that means that it wants you to use liquid that contains higher amounts of milk protein solids than regular milk does.

    A good substitute would be evaporated milk which is essentially whole milk that has been cooked down. The water has evaporated and what remains is a liquid with high concentration of milk solids. Nonfat milk powder is just nonfat milk that has been spray-dried. The water has been eliminated and what's left is just milk solids. As you can see, although the two are not exactly the same, evaporated milk is made up of lot of milk solids and water.

    The recipe calls for water and milk powder when it could have just easily called for slightly over one cup of evaporated milk (milk powder+liquid).

    You might want to try using a cup of warm evaporated milk plus 5-6 tablespoons (to mimic 1 cup of water and 1/2 cup milk powder). It should work. (Half and half or cream would be adding too much fat into the mix.) Make sure you're not using sweetened condensed milk, though.

    Good luck! Let me know how it goes.

    amber February 4, 2010 2:44 AM  

    Thank you for the information!! Very helpful and infomrative. However, sadly, evaporated milk is also not available. :(

    I guess I will have to try it with regular milk...Actually I do have some powdered buttermilk I brought back from the US. Would that work?

    I also have Coffeemate someone brought me....(and is still sitting on my shelf unopened!) But I don't think that it's probably fake stuff and not actual milk.

    We do have sweetened condensed milk here! Except it comes in a tube....so no Dulce de leche for me!

    Leela February 4, 2010 7:09 AM  

    Amber - I wouldn't use either regular milk (not concentrated enough) or buttermilk powder (the acidity might interfere with the recipe). I hope you want these muffins badly, because the only thing I can think of is for you to make your own evaporated milk.

    http://www.shesimmers.com/2008/11/organic-evaporated-milk.html

    Use the shallowest, wiiiiiiiidest pan with the thickest bottom and the best heat distribution you have in the kitchen. Shallow and wide mean lots of surface area which means faster moisture evaporation. Thick pan bottom means the milk won't scorch so easily. Good heat distribution means no hot spots.

    Coffeemate is non-dairy creamer, so it doesn't contain what we want which is milk protein solids.

    As for dulce de leche, you don't have to start with sweetened condensed milk. My Colombian friend's grandmother makes her dulce de leche/cajeta from scratch starting with regular milk. Time consuming, yes, but it can be done. I wanted to post that recipe, but thought people might throw their pots at me for making them spend half a day cooking down milk. But the result is delicious, very delicious. For me, it's worth it.

    Back to milk powder, short of making your own evaporated milk as described above, off the top of my crazy head -- baby formula (dry) might work. It contains cow's milk. You can customize the concentration as desired. And I'm dead certain it's available in Italy. No babies around here, but I'm curious enough to experiment with it.

    amber February 4, 2010 12:43 PM  

    Powdered baby formula is in my house as we speak!! Although, making my own evaporated milk is intriguing....I'll let you know how it works out. I really do miss English muffins that much. But also because I miss so many delicious American bread products....bagels, rye bread....Yes, I make bagels, but I'm ready for something else. Especially since they never really come out that great....

    Rick,  February 4, 2010 1:06 PM  

    Lots of interest on this post...I can only add 1 thing on this subject and Leela touched on this on a twitter, use a scale to weigh and not measure. Too many times I have read about a recipe that failed due to a cup isn't a cup.

    Is a cup of flour 8oz, or is it closer to 5oz...
    I can tell you 5oz is always going to be 5oz or 150 grams when it is weighed and not measured.

    Leela February 4, 2010 1:26 PM  

    Great point, Rick. Thank you so much. (For those who don't know, Rick is quite an avid home baker.)

    Anonymous,  February 7, 2010 9:40 AM  

    you add the baking soda to the batter just and then cook them right after? it doesn't matter if the dough falls, or settles when you fold in the soda? I made these once and put the soda in before the final rising and they came out a little dense.
    thanks

    Leela February 7, 2010 11:08 AM  

    Anonymous - I put the baking soda into the batter *after* the 30-minute rise along with the remaining 1/2 teaspoon of salt. Would you try that to see if that solves the problem and report back? Thanks a lot! :)

    Anonymous,  March 9, 2010 10:06 AM  

    Waiting for the loaf recipe. Getting excited. Where is it. :)

    Leela March 9, 2010 10:07 AM  

    Coming real soon. Thanks. :)

    Anonymous,  March 13, 2010 4:55 AM  

    I'm going to make this recipe this weekend but I'm wondering how I will get the cornmeal finish on them? Because I really like the cornmeal on my muffins.

    Also, I'm going to use bread flour instead of all-purpose.

    Leela March 13, 2010 9:05 AM  

    Anonymous - You can sprinkle the cornmeal on the surface of the griddle where you place the muffin rings instead of greasing it. Sprinkle some more cornmeal on the tops of the muffins before you flip them over as well. You still need to grease the insides of the muffin rings, though.

    Rik,  March 14, 2010 5:12 PM  

    Hi, I was the anonymous poster from march 13 and tried this recipe earlier today.

    Thanks for the tip with the cornmeal, that turned out perfect.

    My muffins turned out looking great, also after the splitting I was totally impressed. Untill I tasted them. They were too dense and just seemed not ready. I did put too much dough in the rings so they where pretty high so I think thats mainly my problem.

    I used INSTANT dry yeast instead of just dry yeast so I skipped the dissolving the yeast in water part. Just mixed one envelope (7gr) instant dry yeast through the flour.

    Instead of all-purpose flour I used bread flour expecting a more open bread structure.

    Questions:
    - How far should I mix the first ingreadients? It says stir until salt and sugar are dissolved but at that point the shortening is still largely undissolved.
    - How long should I beat the dough with the wooden spoon? I beat quite hard for about 2/3 minutes untill I think it looks okay. After the 30 minute rise I also beat pretty hard for 2 minutes while throwing in the salt and baking soda.
    - Will I have better results using normal dry yeast?

    PS. I'm a total newbie when it comes to baking.

    Leela March 14, 2010 6:59 PM  

    Rik,

    *Make sure that one cup of water is hot enough to melt the shortening almost upon contact. Stir just until everything is dissolved, then let it cool down a bit.

    *Even with instant yeast, I still wouldn't skip part. English muffins are different than bread which generally requires two risings. So feed your yeast. No need to switch to regular dry yeast. I use instant yeast too.

    *I stir the batter with a wooden spoon just until everything comes together, about a minute. Ditto with the second stir post-rise.

    *You might want to use all-purpose flour as it has lower protein content and results in lighter muffins. As far as I know, you achieve open texture through the level of moisture in the dough/batter, not the protein content of the flour. This is a very wet dough, so you should get (which you did, right?) the nooks and crannies with regular all-purpose flour.

    Hope this helps. Let me know if you have more questions. :)

    Does anyone else have input to help Rik with his next experiment? If you do, please chime in.

    Rik,  March 15, 2010 8:41 AM  

    Thank you so much for your comments! This made things a lot more clear to me. :)

    I will try the recipe again sometime this week taking your comments in account. I will let you know my results.

    Leela, you rock!

    Rik,  March 17, 2010 6:41 AM  

    Ok, tried a new batch yesterday. I used normal all-purpose flour and did not not skip the yeast dissolving part this time.

    I have 2 little problems left:
    - I think the taste (although its great) is a little bit soapy. Not really disturbing but I think I taste it. Next time I will use half of the baking soda. Maybe my teaspoons are a bit big or something.
    - I'm having some problems portioning the dough in the rings. I almost always throw in too much or not enough.

    Besides that the muffins are absolutely awesome! They totally bring me back to Hawaii, where I ate these as if my life depended on them. The texture is beautiful. It's like in your pictures, with a lot of holes :-)

    I think I'm going to sell these things as they don't sell English muffins anywhere here in Holland but everybody who ate mine seems to love them a lot. They are totally unknown over here. That is why I wanted to make these. I am totally extatic now that I can make 'em myself :)

    Leela March 17, 2010 10:17 AM  

    Rik - Yay, you got the hole-y English muffins! (The second to last paragraph is very cute, by the way.)

    I've never detected the soapy taste. Yeasty maybe, as one of the commenters pointed out, but not exactly what I'd call soapy. You may be particularly sensitive to such taste. Are you one of those people who can't stand cilantro?

    Yes. Sell them. We'll split the money. Don't let Alton know. ;-)

    Since you're thinking of making these on a regular basis, you may want to get a reliable digital kitchen scale, if you don't have it already. One teaspoon of baking soda 5 grams. That's the only way to be sure if you measure correctly. Experiment with adding a little less, perhaps. And if that solves the soapy taste problem, then you have your answer.

    Have fun and good luck!

    Anonymous,  May 15, 2010 3:44 PM  

    How important is putting a baking sheet on top of the muffins as they bake? I did this but when I took off the baking sheet, gooey dough was sticking to the sheet.

    Leela May 15, 2010 3:58 PM  

    Anonymous - The cookie sheet forces the dough to fill the rings and form perfect rounds by expanding horizontally. Without the cookie sheet, you may end up with English muffins are flat on one side with odd flatted domes on the other. It's only for aesthetics.

    Dough tends to stick to the cookie sheet; that's why I included the instruction to grease the bottom of the cookie sheet in bullet point #3 in my notes.

    Kathy,  May 17, 2010 10:32 PM  

    Thank you so much for all your work. Loved them! Even the hubby loved them,and that says alot.I used little spring formed pans and removed the bottoms, they were 2 inches high and 4 inches round and light and lots of holes for the butter. Thank you again Kathy from Ohio USA.

    Leela May 18, 2010 8:48 AM  

    Kathy - using springform pans is just brilliant! I would never have thought of it. Thanks for the report! :)

    Leela June 12, 2010 6:42 AM  

    "Nable Rivers" left this comment: "Hello
    I am concerned about you conversions to grams.
    Tablespoons and teaspoons are volume and grams are weight. Dissimilar ingredients can fill the same volume but not weigh the same. A bucket of ping pong balls will not weigh the same as a bucket of water. A teaspoon of yeast will not weigh the same as a teaspoon of sugar. But if your getting the results you want who cares."

    My reply: I have no clue why your comment which I've approved doesn't show up. Anyway, thanks. I'm aware of the issue. The weight I've put here is based on actual weight of each ingredient as I measured them by volume, not according to a conversion chart. Is there anything in particular that seems a glaring mistake?

    Great tips. Thanks again. :)

    Kārlis Streips July 17, 2010 8:57 AM  

    I just came back from vacation in the States, where I had an English muffin every morning. I tried this recipe in a cast iron pan. After five minutes of cooking, the bottoms of the muffins were burned completely black. I think I didn't put in enough oil. But once the char was cut away and the muffins were toasted, they were perfect. The soda really did make the muffins holey and wonderful, so thank you very much for the recipe!

    Leela July 17, 2010 9:42 AM  

    Kārlis - Oooh, I wouldn't use a cast iron pan for English muffins at all. The qualities that make it great for other dishes, such as fried chicken, kind of work in the opposite way when it comes to English muffins. The heat is difficult to control and once the temperature of the pan reaches a point higher than you want, it takes a while before you can bring back down.

    This will not be solved by adding more oil either as that would only cause the outsides to crisp up and blister. While that's not necessarily a bad thing, crispy and oily exterior is not traditionally what one would expect good English muffins to be.

    I would use a different pan -- a nonstick pancake griddle which doesn't require much more surface greasing than a light spray of vegetable oil and is easier to control temperature-wise.

    Looks like you're just a small adjustment away from mastering the recipe! :)

    Anonymous,  August 7, 2010 6:26 PM  

    OK.. so I'm 3rd batch into this recipe and I'm still coming up with fairly dense round bread. Arrrgghhh!! After getting one of those point and shoot infrared thermometers it's getting better as I'm using cast iron on gas. I need to perfect his method as camp cooking is my goal!

    I need some advice on batter/dough consistency. Should it flow into the rings by itself. I think my dough is a bit too stiff to let the N&C's form. The next step is playing with the soda, for my 5220-9000' elevation requirements..

    The other goal is whole wheat. Has anybody tried whole wheat and multigrains??

    Thanks all!!
    KW in Colorado

    Leela August 7, 2010 8:06 PM  

    KW - There's something about baking these English muffins in a cast iron pan that makes it a bit tricky. Hope the infrared thermometer helps take some of the guess work away.

    The dough is soft, wet, and sticky. When you pour it into the ring, most of it should flow into the ring while some clings to the scooper. I always have to wipe the batter off the scooper with my finger. Stiff dough is definitely the reason for the dense texture. Do you measure or weigh your flour? Weighing is always better.

    More baking soda may be needed at higher altitude.

    I have never tried whole wheat or multigrain. But if anyone has, please feel free to leave comments for KW. Thanks. :)

    Jeremy August 8, 2010 4:06 AM  

    Leela, I've come here late thanks to a link on The Fresh Loaf, and I want to pick you up on the differences between an English Muffin and a Crumpet. There is far, far more to the difference than whether they are split or not. Trust me on this; it is important! :)

    Elizabeth David's English Bread and Yeast Cookery devotes an entire chapter to the subject.

    Leela August 8, 2010 1:21 PM  

    Jeremy - Thanks. :) Would love to read up on that.

    Ssteppe,  August 8, 2010 1:31 PM  

    Re: Taste

    Thomas stopped selling its Sourdough English muffins in my area a few years ago, so in addition to the nooks and crannies, a stronger flavor is important to me also. Have you tried experimenting with the time you let the initial dough set (maybe several hours instead of only 30 minutes)?

    Leela August 8, 2010 1:35 PM  

    Ssteppe - Funny you should bring this up. I'm actually planning on experimenting with two batches this week: one made with my sourdough starter and the other made the same way but with the dough rising overnight in the fridge. Will post results.

    Anonymous,  August 8, 2010 11:07 PM  

    HI all
    Time for an update. Thankfully experimenting with bread is inexpensive and quite frankly even the failures are tasty, with real butter and your favorite topping! I've moved on to whole wheat in the form of half and half, AP and WW flours. Then I made a straight WW batch. The secret I've learned was consistency. I upped the soda some, and it helped. The big secret, that I haven't ried yet, was finding that if you search on "Alton Brown english muffin" you can get a YouTube video. I can see now that my dough needed to be more viscous!! A video is worth a million words!!! I'm out of time for this weekend, but I think the nooks & crannies are in sight!!!!

    Thanks all, for the suggestions!!! btw, ... round bread, toasted, with cinnamon sugar ain't wrong!!!

    KW

    Leela August 9, 2010 8:47 AM  

    That's great, KW. Thanks. :)

    Anonymous,  September 9, 2010 5:02 PM  

    I made these English muffins last weekend and loved them so much that I had to let you know. Great tips and excellent description. I love your blog because you're not all about big glossy pictures and stream of consciousness writing like a lot of the food blogs out there. Every time I come here, I learn something. Thanks.

    JB

    Anonymous,  November 27, 2010 12:51 PM  

    Great Recipe! Thanks so much. I am attempting to recreate the English muffins we love which you can see here: http://tastingtable.com/entry_detail/la/473/La_Grande_Oranges_homemade_English_muffins_are_addictive.htm

    Alton's recipe is the closest to it but I'm going to try and use a sourdough starter along with honey so I'll get a better reaction from the baking soda. The baking soda is a great idea but there needs to be honey, buttermilk or other ingredients for the soda to react with otherwise it's best to use baking powder.

    Honey seems like the perfect addition. Just 1 TBL spoon should do. Try it next time and you'll find even better results with the soda.

    Leela November 27, 2010 1:02 PM  

    Ooooh, Anon, thank you SO much! I'll remember that.

    Anonymous,  December 14, 2010 4:55 AM  

    I came across this page by accident but would like to say that in the opinion of this true Englishman that the product of this recipe is very nearly a Crumpet and not a muffin. Crumpets though are normally cooked on one side only until just set and then toasted again on both sides before eating.

    For those of you who like the nubbly texture of a true (English)Muffin then you need to know that traditionally a muffin is not sliced with a knife but a fork is inserted into the side 3 or 4 times around the centre line and then it is gently pulled apart with two forks or the fingers. The two halves, when toasted have lots of crispy peaks. The best way to toast them is of course on an open fire with a long-handled toasting fork which you sometimes see in secondhand shops/thrift shops.

    George

    Anonymous,  December 14, 2010 6:03 AM  

    I just tried Alton's recipe last night. Although they looked good... and for the most part tasted that way too, but they had the distinctive flavor of pancakes. Not the flavor I am used to with EM's. I have seen other recipes where you let the dough set over night to develop a more tart flavor and to achieve the nooks and crannies naturally.

    Maryann Leffingwell,  December 14, 2010 1:52 PM  

    Do you think that these muffins could be mailed 2 day service as a Christmas gift or do they need to be refrigerated. Thanks, Maryann

    Leela December 14, 2010 1:59 PM  

    Maryann - The muffins' freshness will have deteriorated somewhat, but two days should be okay. I'd wrap them very tightly with plastic wrap and put it in a ziploc bag just to be sure. They would need to be frozen or refrigerated immediately upon arrival, though.

    Rob D,  January 23, 2011 8:05 AM  

    I have just started experimenting with this recipe, i used baking soda and a teaspoon of honey at the final mix. The only thing i did different was use small pieces of aluminum foil coated with nonstick cooking spray to cap each ring, and then didn't cover them after the first flip. The foil caps made flipping easy as pie and the were lightly cooked, loaded with nooks and crannies and ready for toasting. Delicious recipe.

    Leela January 23, 2011 8:41 AM  

    Rob D - Thanks for the tip and the feedback!

    Anonymous,  February 5, 2011 3:43 AM  

    Hello Leela, Thank you for the recipe and detailed description - I have made a successful batch this morning, using a golf ball size of old dough instead of instant yeast, and they came out great -and the result muffins are flavourful, without yeasty undertone, tender crumb, with lots of those vertical holes through out. i also lightly sprinkled the bottom of the rings with some corn meals, as well as a sprinkling on top of each muffin - so I had no problems turning them at all. Thank you again for sharing the AB recipe! Jade

    Anonymous,  February 21, 2011 12:29 PM  

    Leela I want to respond to a question you asked "Kevin" back in March 2009. These ARE called English Muffins in Canada. Crumpets are cooked only on one side in a skillet with lots of holes on top very similar to the Ethiopian bread known as Injeera. Whether or not the "English" in Britain refer to these as Muffins or Crumpets...a rose by any other name still smells as sweet:)

    Carrie in Calgary

    Leela February 21, 2011 4:10 PM  

    Carrie - Thank you! :)

    Laurie/Mom/Grandma February 27, 2011 9:30 PM  

    This post and comments have been fun to read. I designed and have been using a sourdough variation of AB's recipe for about a year now. My version uses half as much yeast and replaces a half cup of water and a half cup of the flour with a cup of sourdough starter. Instead of tasting yeasty, they have a distinctive sourdough flavor. Oh, so good.

    Leela February 27, 2011 9:33 PM  

    Laurie/Mom/Grandma (all three of you?) - Thank you! Love feedback like this because I learn a lot from it. Will definitely give your version a try. :)

    Holly Knott July 19, 2011 10:27 AM  

    Thank you so much for posting this! I just stumbled across your page while searching for english muffin recipes and have it bookmarked to definitely come back to and test out soon. It truly is a science, isn't it? And given the price of Thomas's, I'd much rather try to make my own. :-)

    Lori July 23, 2011 9:43 PM  

    I just stumbled across your recipe and read all the comments. Great information. I tried the alton Brown recipe tonight and they taste good but didn't have all the nooks & crannies we love so. I left my batter for almost an hour and by the time I went to cook it the dough was really sticky and not at all batter-y. I think I left it too long which probably contributed to the lack of nooks etc.

    I'll be making these again soon and will be using your version. Thanks for all the useful information in the recipe and in the comments.

    ArtoriusRex August 14, 2011 2:43 PM  

    Made these this morning for breakfast and was pleased with the result. The only thing I found missing from the recipe/instructions was a more specific description of how thick the batter should be.

    The air pockets on my finished ones were a bit small, so I'm thinking that my batter was a bit too wet. The water measurements in cups didn't work well for me, and I don't have a cc measure. I've love to see the liquid measurements by weight (g); I think this would give better results. We'll see how attempt #2 comes out.

    Great place to start though! Thanks!

    Admin August 14, 2011 3:58 PM  

    ArtoriusRex - I know professional bakers weigh everything, and this makes perfect sense when it comes to dry ingredients, butter, honey, and such. But I'm wondering, when it comes to plain water, how measurements in cups (8 fluid ounces per cup) can be imprecise to the point where a recipe is ruined. Could you explain? Thanks.

    Anonymous,  August 17, 2011 3:07 AM  

    Those look more like 'crumpets' than English Muffins. Perhaps that is why you had so much trouble finding the recipe. You were using American terminology for an English product.

    Admin August 17, 2011 7:28 AM  

    Anon - This whole crumpet versus English muffin issue has been discussed in the comments.

    Anonymous,  September 12, 2011 4:00 PM  

    Very interesting debate on muffins. I do have to say however that this recipe is not a traditional 'English' muffin.
    The type that you don't like are muffins, the type you like are what appears to be a crumpet but of more bread like form. Not quite half muffing and half crumpet, more crumpet i would say, but importantly, and as you have found, cook what you like the best, but there really not a traditional muffin.

    I love both crumpets and muffins, but both are quite different. I use bread flour (10 oz), salt (1tsp), yeast (1/4 oz of dried active) (mixed with the sugar (half oz) and warm water 7.5 fl oz), olive oil 1tbsp (added to the yeast water at end). the dough must be very moist when mixed so that it only just holds it shape. It will firm up when kneaded. left to rise for an hour then divided into balls (10) and placed onto a heavly floured surface and left to rise for 40mins then cooked in rings on a griddle (i use a cast iron pan) about 5 mins on each side. then whilts warm torn/spilt in half by hand not a knive (one is not supposed to cut a muffin in half, i dont know why). then heavly buttered. left over muffins can be split and toasted. I use a recipe from a 'farmhouse cookery' book by Readers Digest, full of traditional British recipes of Old.

    I do love crumpet too!

    Anonymous,  September 15, 2011 8:51 PM  

    Is this recipe taken from this page below?

    http://www.foodnetwork.com/recipes/alton-brown/english-muffins-recipe/index.html

    I'm just a little confused concerning the measurements of the flour and milk powder used in your recipe because Brown's uses twice the amount for flour and about three times the milk powder, but everything else remains the same in weight.

    Also, may I ask if you can bake these in the oven instead of on the griddle? I have actually never made an English muffin before so this griddle thing is new to me.

    Admin September 15, 2011 9:49 PM  

    Anon - I'm not sure what you meant. Alton's recipe calls for 2 cups of flour which weighs about 250g and 1/2 cup of milk powder which weighs about 35-36g.

    I've never made these in the oven. I doubt it would yield the same result.

    Anonymous,  October 15, 2011 10:32 AM  

    for those not using a griddle i found out the hard way that when cooking these on a pan over the stove, the dial should bet set at just above MIN, i had mine set at 1. because any higher burns them.

    also i don't think my dough turned out the way it should have, i had to add water to the dough after the rising to get it to a more "poury" consistency. they also didn't really have any nooks and crannies, I will have to try it again but with some of the suggestions.

    Rachel November 15, 2011 4:40 AM  

    I made these tonight. the first time I had rings that were far too high and they turned out terrible. today i had english muffin rings. they turned out quite nice but i filled the rings too full..which i think made them too dense. didnt get enough nooks and crannies but enough to give me hope, I'll try again.

    Dawn,  December 6, 2011 11:18 AM  

    I did a first run yesterday, second run today. I just wanted to share that I don't use powdered milk - I used warmed up raw milk cream, a little more than 1 Cup - and I used coconut oil instead of shortening (it's solid at room temp, melts easily). I also use white spelt flour.

    They were INCREDIBLE. Nooks and crannies just like you said, the taste was delish. I have rings and I used corn meal on a well warmed cast iron griddle, as well as the cookie sheet. The trick to cast iron is letting it slowly warm up to the temp. you need and not messing with it after that. I had it warming for at least 4 minutes.

    I let the muffins sit in an oven I had warmed and turned off while I was griddling the second round. They "dried out" well and we used forks to open them. I had made blackberry jam the night before and it was great on top!

    Amazing recipe, amazing conversions, amazing comments. I really appreciate being able to make nourishing foods taste like heaven. Thank you so much!

    Admin December 6, 2011 1:17 PM  

    Dawn - Thank you so much. Comments like yours are very helpful to everyone who follows this post. I appreciate you taking the time to share the result of your experiment with us.

    Elise,  December 9, 2011 6:17 PM  

    I just made these for the first time and they were lovely! I only used 1/2 tsp of baking soda as I'm very sensitive to the taste. My muffins turned out with a true English Muffin texture (not like crumpets.) I did something a bit different to save a bit of time and effort. I lined a baking dish with baking paper, sprinkled corn meal and spread the batter evenly in the tray, I then topped with a light sprinkling of corn meal and baked at 180C fan forced until golden brown. I then cut it (with a bread knife) in to 8 portions and then halved those length ways. They turned out exactly like English muffins, only square shaped! They didn't dry out or get crispy at all. They were very tender and light.

    Admin December 9, 2011 6:38 PM  

    Elise - Very, very helpful. Thank you so much.

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